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Beware all Challengers! The beasts in Un’goro Crater are in a feeding frenzy!

Well… some of them. Regular mobs are still in the Level 50 range, however, the elite T-rex’s have been buffed so they will match your character’s level. Keep an eye out for them.

There are also Level 113 Elite bosses that spring up in the Crater, three are up at any given time. They will absolutely decimate your challenger.

Use of the Dino Mojo is not allowed as this provides a random buff. If you get this buff (which you shouldn’t, since it’s supposed to be applied to party members only and there’s no reason why you’d need to be in a party, RIGHT?), simply right-click this off.

You can find more information on the event by checking out this wowhead guide:

Congratulations to Awayn for becoming the 11th challenger to complete the Ironman Challenge in Legion! Awayn, a draenei hunter and Level 100 Iron Champion, went from Level 100 to 110 in 271 days, 1 hour and 53 minutes (this is actual real-time, not /played ’cause Blizzard has made that information private).

This is the second time the character has made it to max level and (I believe) the second Iron Champion character Awayn’s owner has.

Awayn is only the 4th hunter we’ve had to hit the Legion Iron Champion mark, a number that’s a lot lower this time around since Warlords.



The release of Legion included the quest chain to tame and drag around your very own falcosaur. There is a very cool reward at the end, so cool, in fact, that Blizzard decided to let you earn this not once but FOUR TIMES. There are fifteen quests for each falcosaur (as per, so sixty in total.

The interesting part, subsequently the part that gives Blood Thirsty Challengers a headache, is the fact these quests are account-wide. These act like the Pet Trainer quests, which also are account-wide, and see your new Level 1 toon with 50+ completed quests.

So what do we do?

At this point there really is only one thing to do… up the cap limit from 150 to 210 to account for the extra 60 account-wide quests a character could conceivably start with. For Blood Thirsty characters that were created before June 1 2016, your cap limit is not changed, it’s still 300 (this number was set arbitrarily high in order to account for all sorts of things).

These changes have been applied already. We’ve also reset everyone’s flags from red to green and will let the nightly job run to correctly set everyone’s flag.

We’ve fixed a bug / issue where the quest cap wasn’t getting changed if your character was already in our system. So if you created a character before June 1 2016, you’d have a quest cap of 300 even if you died and rerolled a new Blood Thirsty character with the same name. We’re going to look at your Level 10 time instead (should have done this in the first place!) and set your quest cap based on that.

If anyone notices anything strange or wonky, please let Stone know.

A new mount is available in World of Warcraft: the Primal Flamesaber! All you need to do is play 15 games of HotS as a WoW character with at least one friend from your Bnet friends list. Wins? Losses? Doesn’t matter!  Not a fan of HotS? Well, to be honest, Stone isn’t either, however, it’s been known that he DOES have fun in there from time to time.

Stone is offering all WoW Challenges Patrons a friend to play with. While he’s not particularly great at HotS, it should be pretty easy to knock out 15 games against a beginner AI, right?

Are you on EU or US realms? From Australia? No problem…  we’ll work out some times where we can get on… the more the merrier! This event lasts from Feb.14 (Feb.15 for EU) through to Mar.14.

Here is a great guide from WoWHead on the event:

Love is in the Air has started and will run from February 7 through to February 21. We go over the Love is in the Air Guide and let you know what’s allowed for your Challengers.

Quests: All quests are okay to do except for Blood Thirsty challengers.

Lovely Cards: The Lovely Cards (example: Lovely Undercity Card) are NOT allowed as they provide stat buffs for your character.

Love Tokens: These can be spent on a number of things, however, please keep in mind that the Box of Chocolates and anything that is a Cologne or Perfume are NOT allowed as they provide you buffs.

Dresses & Suits: There are white-quality dresses and suits that can be equipped, so these are fair game for your Challengers. No need to worry about equipping an item and getting flagged for it.

Apothecary Hummel: NOT ALLOWED as this counts as a dungeon. You’ll need to use your regular characters for your chance at the Big Love Rocket.

Collecting Charms: You’re allowed to collect charms for achievements if you want except Pacifists as the Lovely Charms require you to land the killing blow to receive the charm.

The WoW Challenges Podcast is the podcast for keeping the community up to date with news and information for your Challenge Toons!

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We’ve readjusted the code so that while you are allowed up to 10 Proximity Kills, we are still going to be limiting your killing blows. If you have 10 or less Kills, we then look at your Killing Blows.

0 Killing Blows = Green Flag
1-2 Killing Blows = Yellow Flag
3+ Killing Blows = Red Flag

Killing Blows are completely avoidable and are not applied to your stats like Proximity Kills are.

Around a month ago, we added code to look for Proximity Kills and updated our rules. Don’t know what PKs are? We’re not talking about Player Kills (for those that remember Diablo 1). Proximity Kills are a feature that was introduced in Warlords of Draenor where merely being near a mob that was killed around you would give you credit for the kill as well as possible loot. This was great for regular game-play and group quests, however, it was devastating for folks running the solo Pacifist Challenge where ANY kill would red-flag you.

We changed that to allow up to 2 kills as long as there were 0 killing blows (KBs).  This meant you could have up to 2 proximity kills and, as long as you didn’t deal the killing blow, would remain green-flagged and could continue on through the challenge. Initially the thought was the allowance would be more applicable to higher level challengers, and indeed, this resulted in our Legion first Pacifist champion Голаяправда, however, now we know without a doubt that these Proximity Kills will happen anywhere in the World of Warcraft. Our example was a Level 30 Pacifist who already had 3 Proximity Kills.

Based on the feedback we’ve received, we’re upping the limit to ten. That being you are allowed ten kills with zero killing blows and you can still remain green-flagged. Overall this is just under 1 proximity kill allowed per ten levels. While it’s fantastic that we’ve had someone make it to 110 with only 2 PKs, overall, we think the change will open the challenge up a bit to more folks but still have it remain challenging.

There was some thought on just removing the check for kills altogether and focus only on killing blows, however, this leaves a pretty large opening for folks to take advantage of groups and having a guard or escort. There is also some thought towards upping the limit to 150, to match the Blood Thirsty Challenge quest cap. Right now, 150 seems a bit on the excessive side and the reasons for quests for Blood Thirsty are quite different for accommodating Proximity Kills.

Overall, we’re leaving it at 10 proximity kills and see how challengers fare. All Pacifist characters have been updated and have had their flags reset if applicable.

Huge congratulations to the first person to ever complete the Blood Thirsty Challenge, Neverdiedbld! Neverdied is a veteran of the Ironman Challenge with several Iron Championships under his belt and had set his sights on the Blood Thirsty. With his Pandaren Hunter he has paved the way, showing that it is now possible to complete the challenge.

Leveling time between Level 10 (July 8 2016 18:44:44) and 110 (January 29 2017 14:45:50) was 207 days, 21 hours, 1 minute and 46 seconds. Much of that time was spent at Level 100 waiting for some much needed challenge rule changes to happen, especially since the character almost met its demise on testing the water in Legion.

Neverdiedbld now stands as the sole Blood Thirsty Champion on the Victory Podium:

Again, congratulations to Neverdiedbld!

Lunar Festival

The Lunar Festival runs from January 21 through to February 4. Overall the event has not changed as far as the structure / organization, however, 3 new toys were added in 2017. Please see the Lunar Festival Guide for a complete overview of the event.

Honouring Elders: You can absolutely go and honour Elders and take advantage of the free Experience Points they’ll give you. Honouring an Elder will give you a Lucky Red Envelope and a Coin of Ancestry.

Lunar Fortune Buff: In each of the envelopes you will receive either a Lucky Rocket Cluster or Elder’s Moonstone. Setting off the Lucky Rocket Cluster from a cluster launcher will give you the Lunar Fortune buff… this gives you +250 health and is NOT ALLOWED.

Quests: All quests are allowed, even the quest that requires you to defeat Omen, although I’m not quite sure I’d recommend trying it… if you die, that’s it.

Coin of Ancestry Redemption: You can turn in your Coins of Ancestry for pets, toys, food, fireworks and clothes.

Festival Dumplings: Allowed. Good health/mana regeneration. Stock up on these.
Festival Dresses and Suits: Allowed. They are all White-Quality equippable gear.
Schematics & Patterns: Allowed for Pacifists only. You can buy these from Fariel Starsong to craft cluster & firework launchers as well as festival dresses and suits.

Call of the Scarab Micro-Holiday

Welcome to our first Call of the Scarab Micro-Holiday. Factions compete Region-wide for the honour of hanging our banner at the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj. The event runs from January 21 through to January 24.

Quests: All quests are allowed, however, please be aware that some quests WILL flag you for PvP (picking up silithyst, for example).

Repeatable Food Quests: These are allowed, however, remember that you cannot get help from other characters, whether this means farming food materials or gold. Challengers can only use the resources that were earned on THAT specific character to complete these quests.

Level-scaling mobs: Caution and care are needed when venturing in here as the Twilight Cultists in the camps are now level-scaling. Basically the mobs will be at or one-level under your character. For most characters this should be fine, however, other classes might need to be more careful.